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		| Stevewest07 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm interested in getting a portrait lens for my 4X5 Speed Graphic. I've read that a 270mm Tele-avtar or Telerotelar is a nice lens for this, but in looking at some pictures on ebay of these lenes they look huge. My question is how do they attach to the camera. Surely a lens board and retaining ring isn't enough support. What will I need to actually attach the lens to the camera. 
 Also any advice on the lens selection for a portrait lens would be greatly appreciated.
 
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		| hartwell_a_m 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 6:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| For general portrate work a lens in the 150-180mm ramge works best. Imho |  | 
	
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		| Stevewest07 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 8:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks for the suggestion, but isn't that a rather short focal length for portrait work? Wouldn't that be equivelent to about a 50mm-60mm on a 35mm camera? Seems like I'd want at least the equivelent to about a 70-80mm lens on a 35 mm camera, which I thought would be about 210mm-240mm. |  | 
	
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 12:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A 203mm f/7.5 Optar (or Ektar) or a 250mm Tele-Optar might fill the bill, as all of these are designed for the Graphics and wouldn't cost a fortune. You might find one at the Ft. Washington or Trevose camera shows.  I use the 203 Optar as a long lens on my Century Graphic. 
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		| Dan Fromm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 1:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Steve, the 10" TeleRaptar/Optar isn't that huge.  I use one on a couple of 2x3 Graphics and it doesn't stress the front standard too much.  Not only that, Graflex recommended them for all sizes of Graphics. 	  | Quote: |  	  | On 2002-06-14 07:51, Stevewest07 wrote:
 I'm interested in getting a portrait lens for my 4X5 Speed Graphic. I've read that a 270mm Tele-avtar or Telerotelar is a nice lens for this, but in looking at some pictures on ebay of these lenes they look huge. My question is how do they attach to the camera. Surely a lens board and retaining ring isn't enough support. What will I need to actually attach the lens to the camera.
 
 Also any advice on the lens selection for a portrait lens would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
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 The 8" TeleRaptar/Optar that Henry (I think that's who it was) is much smaller and lighter, also won't cover 4x5.  IIRC, its image circle is ~ 130 mm.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Dan
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		| Henry 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 4:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hello, Dan--- 
 I recommended the 10" (250mm) Tele-Optar, not the 8" (200mm).  "Graphic Graflex Photography" (10th edition, p. 32) says the 10" will work on "all three Graphics"---2x3, 3x4, and 4x5.
 
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		| Dan Fromm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Henry, as usual you're right and I'm wrong.  Time for new glasses, I fear. 	  | Quote: |  	  | On 2002-06-15 09:36, Henry wrote:
 Hello, Dan---
 
 I recommended the 10" (250mm) Tele-Optar, not the 8" (200mm).  "Graphic Graflex Photography" (10th edition, p. 32) says the 10" will work on "all three Graphics"---2x3, 3x4, and 4x5.
 
 
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 Cheers,
 
 Dan
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		| Stevewest07 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2002 8:54 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks to all who responded. Your suggestions really helped and cleared things up for me. I'll start looking for a 203mm-240mm. And I'm relieved I won't have to have anything special built to fit the lens to the camera. Again, thanks for the help. 
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