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Wanted: Ilex Repair Manual

 
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camz



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have a source for repair manuals for Ilex shutters? My No. 4 Universal is quite sluggish, and I need to clean it up.
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Rangemaster



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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ilex shutters are actually pretty easy to CLA, there are a couple of screws to take off in the front and then you can remove the aperture scales and rings, the shutter will only go back together one way as everything is keyed to fit only one way, once you have it open you will most likly need to clean the pivot points and then apply a light lubricant, out of all of the shutters I have CLA's the Ilex's are one of the easiest. For cleaning, I use a small diameter needle injector to apply a non caustic solvent and they use another needle injector to apply lub, Like I say, it is a pretty straight forward operation on these shutters, I try not to get solvent on the shutter blades, alot of the Ilex shutters have plastic blades that could be damaged.

I have never seen an actual Ilex shutter repair manual, but if you would still like to aquire one, I would recommend checking with S.K. Grimes, http://www.skgrimes.com

Good Luck.

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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2005-05-14 15:48, Rangemaster wrote:
The Ilex shutters are actually pretty easy to CLA, there are a couple of screws to take off in the front and then you can remove the aperture scales and rings, the shutter will only go back together one way as everything is keyed to fit only one way, once you have it open you will most likly need to clean the pivot points and then apply a light lubricant, out of all of the shutters I have CLA's the Ilex's are one of the easiest. For cleaning, I use a small diameter needle injector to apply a non caustic solvent and they use another needle injector to apply lub, Like I say, it is a pretty straight forward operation on these shutters, I try not to get solvent on the shutter blades, alot of the Ilex shutters have plastic blades that could be damaged.

I have never seen an actual Ilex shutter repair manual, but if you would still like to aquire one, I would recommend checking with S.K. Grimes, http://www.skgrimes.com

Good Luck.

Dave Parker


Um, Dave, aren't Ilexes made to run dry?

Cheers,

Dan
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Dave. Any suggestions for a solvent?
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll jump in with, Plain 'ol rubbing alcohol or electrical contact cleaner. Both work fine.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On 2005-05-14 16:39, Dan Fromm wrote:
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On 2005-05-14 15:48, Rangemaster wrote:
The Ilex shutters are actually pretty easy to CLA, there are a couple of screws to take off in the front and then you can remove the aperture scales and rings, the shutter will only go back together one way as everything is keyed to fit only one way, once you have it open you will most likly need to clean the pivot points and then apply a light lubricant, out of all of the shutters I have CLA's the Ilex's are one of the easiest. For cleaning, I use a small diameter needle injector to apply a non caustic solvent and they use another needle injector to apply lub, Like I say, it is a pretty straight forward operation on these shutters, I try not to get solvent on the shutter blades, alot of the Ilex shutters have plastic blades that could be damaged.

I have never seen an actual Ilex shutter repair manual, but if you would still like to aquire one, I would recommend checking with S.K. Grimes, http://www.skgrimes.com

Good Luck.

Dave Parker


Um, Dave, aren't Ilexes made to run dry?

Cheers,

Dan


Dan,

I have always used a very small bit of lub on mine, I have found this to provide a long bit of use between CLA, but you are correct, the original designs were indeed designed to run dry.

Dave

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camz



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, everyone!
This was a fairly straitforward cla, and I did use isopropyl alcohol as the cleaner. It does help to make sketches and notes as you disassemble the shutter. I also got a pair of S. K. Grimes' lens wrenches, and cleaned up the lens elements as well.
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David A. Goldfarb



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an excellent site with instructions for servicing various old cameras and shutters. I've CLA'd a few Ilex and Synchro-Compur shutters so far, starting from instructions on this site--

http://daniel.mitchell.name/cameras/index.html

I clean with naphtha and on the Ilex shutters, I find a little light oil on the retard mechanism that controls the slow speeds and some heavy lith grease in the channels on the speed setting cam make everything run more smoothly.
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