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[dawid_burger]

I've been looking at modern lenses, something also a bit wider than my 135mm. Has anyone used a 120mm Super Symmar HM on a crown graphic ? Will the lid close with it mounted ?

Cheers, Dawid

[djon]

...measure" gross length in shutter, diameters etc...evidently nobody here has experience with it, but many will know the dimensions of lenses that do allow closing.

fwiw if it's too long you could cut (Dremel) an aperture in the drawbridge and add an expanded housing ...easy...I may do this with a Century to accomodate a lens shade that I don't want to keep attaching and removing.

[RichS]

You could get the dimension of the Symmar from the Schneider web site. From the camera by removing the lens board. Measure from the lens board to GG for back side. Remove the GG, close the caera, then measure from lens board to front cover through the back.

I doubt it woudl fit either length-wise or width-wise. Remember, the front cell also has to fit between the rails when the camera is closed.

And please don't butcher a Graphic just to fit a lens...


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[djon]

Graphics were born to be butchered.

They were born in butchery.

They're cameras, not toys or collectables.

Chop it up and make it do what you want

[RichS]

Yes, and when there's none left and no parts available, what to do. move on to the other old brands to destroy them too?

Great attitude, smiley or not!


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[Henry]

First one who lays a hand on my Century gets "their" ---- cut off!

[djon]

"... when there's none left and no parts available, what to do. move on to the other old brands to destroy them too?"

Yes. Why not?

Graflexes are common as dirt and most are wasting away from disuses in "collections," ie closets and basements. It'll be a cold day in hell when we run out of them.

It's GREAT when somebody puts a fine modern lens on one of these beasts, and if the beast needs to be modified to do it, modify the beast! Photographers have been butchering their Graflexes forever, it's not a new idea.

This isn't the time to mince around them like they were Leicas. We won't have film much longer: Let's figure out ways to shoot more of it while it lasts.

[RichS]

If everyone was like you, cameras would run out long before film will. And film will be aorund much longer than any of us.

Those who show no repsect for their tools will always want for a good tool!

Thank goodness most Graflex users have respect!


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[troublemaker]

Thanks Rich.
I have some comments I am sending you, check your PM's

The Biggest lens I have been able to mount and still close is the 8-1/4 (210) f~4.5 Raptar, which surprized me, but it's close.
There's a lot of room in there.

[ This Message was edited by: troublemaker on 2006-01-26 08:07 ]

[troublemaker]

I think it may be best if the camera butcher doesn't post here anymore. I have heard enough of the inflamatory language being used consistently and often in an instigating and inappropriate manner not in keeping with what I believe to be the purpose of this site.

[djon]

Trouble, weren't you the guy who was "modifying" your cameras?

That you, of all people, think I shouldn't post is startling.

I may be mistaken, but I thought Graflex was a classic American item.

[RichS]

And djon, you should talk, at all:

http://graflex.org/helpboard/viewtopic.php?topic=3060&forum=4

Why you bother film users is beyond me?


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[troublemaker]

I do not modify at all, in fact I am trying to put a lot of these things back into exlcellent original working condition. Changing a lens is not modifying anything, nor is calibrating a rangefnider for that lens. These are highly versitle cameras that can be put to use for any number of creative and productive uses without "butchering" them. I have seen enough butchery in the last two years to make me sick. And there is a rather large difference between hacking and fine machining also. Maybe you are referring to what I call my stripped down backpacking Century which is only that. I could put it back into its original configuration in about two hours by putting the view finders and some other missalanoius parts back on it, and it never had a RF.
Everything is put away bagged and marked for that body as are about twenty other cameras in various stages of reconditioning. I try very hard not to even take parts from one camera to the next unless absolutely necessary. I have a couple cameras here with thier original sales receipts for which I am the second owner. Yeah there are a lot of these things gathering mold in some dungy old closet or basement, but that doesn't justify to me on any level encouraging anyone who can read these posts to go ahead and hack them up.
Please do not respond to this nor any other comments herein.
This is a help board not a hack board. I have said my piece and will not participate in this any further...
Good day to you

[Les]

[Les]