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		pv17vv
 
 
  Joined: 22 Dec 2001 Posts: 255 Location: The Ardennes, Belgium
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:45 pm    Post subject: K2 vs CK3 | 
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				Hello all !
 
 
Just purchased a handfull of Series Kodak filters.
 
 
What is exactly the difference between yellow K2 and yellow CK3 ?
 
 
Why should still- and movie-cameras need different filters ?
 
 
Thanks.
 
 
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		C. Henry
 
 
  Joined: 13 Dec 2005 Posts: 360 Location: North East Georgia, USA
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Georges;
 
 
My copy of the Photo Lab Index says that "K2" is an old designation for a #8 filter and "K3" for a #9 filter.  A #9 is a deeper yellow than a #8.  The PLI also indicates that a #9 will usually over correct cloud - clear sky contrast in black & white photography.  
 
As for the "CK3" designation, I'm guessing that it was just a marketing ploy to try to convince amateur movie people that they need special filters instead of the more generally used ones.
 
 
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		Les
 
 
  Joined: 09 May 2001 Posts: 2682 Location: Detroit, MI
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well there's this scan of a kodak catalog that admits the CK3 is a cine filter, but it doesn't say why.  the difference (at least in Kodak's graph) between a K2 and K3  (#8 and #9) is minimal, 
 
 
But maybe movie film stock was slightly different than 35mm?  and needed the sight difference between a K2 and K3?  If so, why the Cine?  why not just say K3 for movies?
 
 
A Marketing gimmick? 
 
 
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		glennfromwy
 
 
  Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 903 Location: S.W. Wyoming
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				 Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				CK  = cine Kodak. Why? I know nothing. _________________ Glenn
 
 
"Wyoming - Where everybody is somebody else's weirdo" | 
			 
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		pv17vv
 
 
  Joined: 22 Dec 2001 Posts: 255 Location: The Ardennes, Belgium
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Thanks my Friends.
 
 
Observation of said filter after a good cleaning shows two things :
 
 
1 it is a very small bit denser than K2
 
 
2 it is half thinner in the mount, as if one of both glasses was missing
 
 
K3 in plain glass instead of dyes between cemented glass ? | 
			 
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		glennfromwy
 
 
  Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 903 Location: S.W. Wyoming
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				That's very possible. Regular Wratten filters, such as the K-2 are gelatin between two glasses.
 
The CK-3 is probably dyed glass. It probably has a different spectral sensitivity, too. I'm going to speculate that it is a pro item. _________________ Glenn
 
 
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